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joffr |
Posted - 01 Sep 2015 : 13:09:12 Hi, I'm in the process of getting my H120 back on the road after 25+ years. The engine was built re-built some years ago and not very well - non Holbay head for starters. Can someone give me a definitive list of what was different between the standard engine and this one? I've a parts book for the Arrow range but I think it might pre-date the H120 / GLS release. I've heard a lot over the years such as different push rods, lighter con rods & fly wheel etc etc, given the finances of Rootes / Chrysler at the time I'm not sure how much they would have been prepared to invest - con rods seems a bit excessive to me. Any help very much welcome. Thanks J |
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joffr |
Posted - 21 Sep 2015 : 21:16:10 Thanks Glen, the car is in bits scattered around various parts of the country with family and friends and paperwork is in storage but due to come out soon. As soon as I have it I'll get the details to you. Jonathan |
joffr |
Posted - 21 Sep 2015 : 21:14:02 quote: Originally posted by bigt80
You can pm me with your chassis details & I can check in club records. Some photos, as Tim suggested, would also be useful, in case it is a car known to the club or members. Cheers. G. PS: Re H120 differences, I think the different base on the filter assbly was to for the oil temp sender take off, rather than oil cooler, although you can get ones that have the pipes for that. Ali sump was deleted c. early '71 to save on costs, but means oil temp is that little bit higher on steel sump models. Indeed oil temp gauge was deleted from H120 spec in last couple of years following lots of complaints from owners, so rather than fit an oil cooler Chrysler put the Ammeter back - what the eye doesn't see..... . G
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arrocuda |
Posted - 02 Sep 2015 : 13:04:43 The Big T (Glen) is correct..... I forgot the oil temperature sender. There's always something!
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bigt80 |
Posted - 01 Sep 2015 : 16:33:52 You can pm me with your chassis details & I can check in club records. Some photos, as Tim suggested, would also be useful, in case it is a car known to the club or members. Cheers. G. PS: Re H120 differences, I think the different base on the filter assbly was to for the oil temp sender take off, rather than oil cooler, although you can get ones that have the pipes for that. Ali sump was deleted c. early '71 to save on costs, but means oil temp is that little bit higher on steel sump models. Indeed oil temp gauge was deleted from H120 spec in last couple of years following lots of complaints from owners, so rather than fit an oil cooler Chrysler put the Ammeter back - what the eye doesn't see..... . G |
arrocuda |
Posted - 01 Sep 2015 : 15:14:58 It's difficult to be certain without seeing the car but my guess is that the complete block has been exchanged by your rogue mechanic (cowboys ride horses and round up cattle, and generally speaking are not often found fixing cars or building houses over here in Britain).
Assuming you bought the car knowing that it is a genuine H120 complete with boot lid, badges and registration docs that confirm it is an H120 model, if this is not the case then chances are it's an H120 clone.
You can confirm the build spec' from the VIN plate. Certainly, if you post a pic of the VIN you can get all the details regarding the original build spec' of your car. I think there is an identification thread on here somewhere which you can use to determine the build yourself.
It might even be known to the club, in which case there are people on here who can probably give you definitive answers. But I'm not one of them.
From your previous post am I right to assume that the block has the H120 weber carbs, manifolds, rocker cover and dizzy fitted? Posting some pics of the engine could be useful.
Tim.
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joffr |
Posted - 01 Sep 2015 : 14:07:08
That's great.
I'm guessing the following are no loner available?
Valve Springs Cam Shaft - mine is worn. Could be re-ground but I don't know if it's the original one so seems pointless spending money on it. Are there any distinguishing marks on it that would help identify it? Pistons I don't have am aluminium sump but mine is a '73 car.
I think everything else would be the OK. I can't imagine the cowboys that rebuilt it would have changed the push rods or fly wheel.
They certainly put the wrong pistons in it though!!
quote]Originally posted by arrocuda
Taking it from the top down it goes.....
Rocker Cover Valve Springs Cylinder Head Inlet Manifold Weber Carburettors Exhaust Manifold Piston heads (Flat top as opposed to dished) Con rods are same Distributor (Vacuumless advance mech on H120) Push Rods (Tubular) Camshaft Oil Filter Adaptor (H120 has a port to allow feed to oil cooler) Flywheel Clutch assembly Aluminium Sump (But not on later models it would appear) Mine was fitted with the standard pressed steel version, but it came out of a '74 model.
I think that's all but I'm sure that it will be pointed out if I've missed something.
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arrocuda |
Posted - 01 Sep 2015 : 13:43:31 Taking it from the top down it goes.....
Rocker Cover Valve Springs Cylinder Head Inlet Manifold Weber Carburettors Exhaust Manifold Piston heads (Flat top as opposed to dished) Con rods are same Distributor (Vacuumless advance mech on H120) Push Rods (Tubular) Camshaft Oil Filter Adaptor (H120 has a port to allow feed to oil cooler) Flywheel Clutch assembly Aluminium Sump (But not on later models it would appear) Mine was fitted with the standard pressed steel version, but it came out of a '74 model.
I think that's all but I'm sure that it will be pointed out if I've missed something.
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