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Holbay120

United Kingdom
177 Posts

Posted - 14 May 2010 :  05:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
must be sell a rapier season- interested?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1973-Sunbeam-Rapier-full-test-free-tax-/190396438986?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c548319ca

David McKenna

Edited by - Holbay120 on 14 May 2010 05:43:16

1922

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 14 May 2010 :  13:03:42  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks ok. Worth a look at.

Oddly, the owner thinks that all Rapiers have a Holbay heads.
The factory only fitted those Rapier H120 and Hunter GLS.
It's easy to check, all Holbay heads have a serial number stamped on the top face of the head near the number 1 inlet port.
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joncott57

3 Posts

Posted - 28 May 2010 :  10:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was very surprised to win this on the eBay auction. (I had been looking to buy the red Belgian H120). Bought this unseen... So Tuesday I collected it and drove it home to Hampshire, 200 miles. We got here and it was fine. Some slight vibration which I suspect is either wheel balance or shocks (or both). It needs a service. Oh, and the blurry photos dont show all the rust bubbles and patching. So it will need some attention, possibly in the winter. Vinyl roof will have to go due to the bubbles under. It has a Holbay stamp on the head, but twin Strombergs so not H120 I gather. I've now had a chance for a longer look. I'm not sure it's going to be affordable - there seems to be loads of bodywork requiring replacement. Hmm. Anyone need some mobile spare parts? It even has an MOT till 2011.
Jon
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argonaut

Hungary
39 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2010 :  21:33:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks pretty decent for the money you paid for it. Ref the Holbay rocker box cover - these will fit on any of the 1500 or 1725 engines and doesn't mean it's a Holbay. To tell if it's a genuine Holbay engine (or head) look ofr anumber stamp on the cylinder head near the front - Holbay have this but ordinary Rootes ones don't. Also have a look at the push rods - tubular means could mean Holbay, steel ones mean probably standard. If you get the head off look at the pistons too - flat head for Holbay, not so for standard. Cam shaft should be different too but I can't remember exactly how. What about eh exhaust manifold - tubular four branch or cast iron lump?
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1053 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2010 :  17:34:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by joncott57

I was very surprised to win this on the eBay auction. (I had been looking to buy the red Belgian H120). Bought this unseen... So Tuesday I collected it and drove it home to Hampshire, 200 miles. We got here and it was fine. Some slight vibration which I suspect is either wheel balance or shocks (or both). It needs a service. Oh, and the blurry photos dont show all the rust bubbles and patching. So it will need some attention, possibly in the winter. Vinyl roof will have to go due to the bubbles under. It has a Holbay stamp on the head, but twin Strombergs so not H120 I gather. I've now had a chance for a longer look. I'm not sure it's going to be affordable - there seems to be loads of bodywork requiring replacement. Hmm. Anyone need some mobile spare parts? It even has an MOT till 2011.
Jon



Hi Jon, Is it KRMnnnL If so, was laid up for a fair few months when in Stockport. Always worth a shout on here before buying - too late now I know - as a club we know a lot of cars that have been through over the years. Think a chap in Yorks recommissioned it, but when I saw it - in Stockport, it did need a fair bit of work to make it a real goodun. Bodies/Interiors so important - mechanicals less so as most stuff still available. Hope it's not beyond doing? Cheers. G.
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joncott57

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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 :  00:04:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys
Thanks for the extra info. Yes, it is KRMnnnL. I've had the wheels balanced. Makes a big difference. But the bodywork does look to be beyond me. I'm trying to work out whether its better to sell it straight on now or do some of the mechanical bits first. My interest is in the driving, not the renovation so its going to cost me one way or other. Any offers? Jon
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